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Smithy's Suburban
11-12-2013, 03:13 PM
Post: #41
RE: Smithy's Suburban
when my dad did his sas using the off road direct kit, I noticed it's one of the only kits that connects the from hangers together with a tube across the front. I agree that might not be a bad idea to tie the two hangers in together.
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11-12-2013, 04:35 PM
Post: #42
RE: Smithy's Suburban
yeah I agree too. I didn't even pay attention to that. The Nissan leaf kits connect them too and we have a really stuff frame from the factory.

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11-13-2013, 08:08 AM
Post: #43
RE: Smithy's Suburban
(11-12-2013 12:17 PM)Capria Wrote:  Looks awesome! I can't wait to see it. I don't know exactly how hard you wheel but it may be beneficial to look into building a crossmember connecting your front shackle hangers from side to side. It was pointed out to me by a bunch of guys on Pirate that as you flex, it begins to twist the frame at the shackle hanger/body mounts and it will begin to crack the frame where it opens from boxed to just C channel.

Don't get too far ahead of me, lol. I plan on tying the front framerails together with a plate steel bumper. But yeah, those guys are talking about the rear hangers. You have suspension force pushing up on the inside of the framerail, and the body pushing down on the outside. It can potentially cause the frame to crack from the twisting. But remember those guys beat their trucks hard enough to bend a 14 bolt housing into a U shape, lol.

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11-13-2013, 04:09 PM
Post: #44
RE: Smithy's Suburban
Haha you've got a point there. My SF14 is bent so prob has something to do with it being mentioned to me lol. Figured I'd share the knowledge though.
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11-14-2013, 04:35 PM
Post: #45
RE: Smithy's Suburban
(11-13-2013 04:09 PM)Capria Wrote:  Haha you've got a point there. My SF14 is bent so prob has something to do with it being mentioned to me lol. Figured I'd share the knowledge though.

Thanks for the tip. I plan to tie the rear mounts together.

(11-12-2013 04:35 PM)AlvarezMetalWorks Wrote:  yeah I agree too. I didn't even pay attention to that. The Nissan leaf kits connect them too and we have a really stuff frame from the factory.

Sometime down the road I will need a piece of tubing bent up for this. It will go from one rear spring mount over top of the transmission and back down to the other side spring mount.

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11-14-2013, 08:21 PM
Post: #46
RE: Smithy's Suburban
Let me know when you're ready.

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11-19-2013, 08:41 PM
Post: #47
RE: Smithy's Suburban
Installed the transfer case shifter. I still need to mount the indicator and bezel, but at least I can shift it form inside.

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Used the front shaft out of the F350, it only has one plow season on the joints and centering yoke, and everything still moves freely.

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In order to do so I swapped out the standard front yoke for a cv style yoke.

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With the shaft in, and the suspension at full droop there is plenty of clearance at the crossmember.

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And with the suspension compressed, a little over 1" between the crossover pipe and the boot. Travel seems good both ways.

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11-20-2013, 12:13 AM
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Looks good buddy.
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11-23-2013, 10:12 AM
Post: #49
RE: Smithy's Suburban
Now its on to wheels and tires. I'm using surplus Goodyear MTRs, 37/12.50/16.5 on 24 bolt double beadlock wheels. This is the same combo used on the current generation of armored HMMWV.

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I am currently working on recentering the wheels to give them less backspacing. Right now they are around 7", and will be at 3.25" when finished. Dismounted all 5 of them, here you can see the rubber runflat insert.

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These are the single piece low profile inserts, and are about 4" tall. I'm going to leave them in for now, mostly because they are used tires and I don't trust them yet.

I want to internally balance the tires so there is no worry of a weight falling off, and they will self balance if packed with mud or snow. That means scraping out all the runflat grease.

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It doesn't look like much, but there is around 3 pounds of grease in each tire.

I checked each tire for damage and all look ok, no signs of them ever being flat, no patches plugs or leaks.

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11-25-2013, 07:29 AM (This post was last modified: 11-25-2013 11:05 AM by AlvarezMetalWorks.)
Post: #50
RE: Smithy's Suburban
I got the pleasure of cutting the centers out of these wheels. God I wish someone had a nice 35" mud tire in a 16.5 that didn't cost $300+ each. However BFG sells their AT in a 35X12.5R16.5 Might do that and just save up for an extra set of wheels and good mud tires later down the road. We'll see...

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